Chiokk's Self-Introduction (Part 2)

Okay, since you all really want to know, I’ll go into detail about my masturbation problem.

According to the usual line, men masturbate because of patriarchal thinking that oppresses women and rapes women, right? I’m sorry, but my situation is very special.

If you insist on asking what I usually look at when I masturbate, I can tell you that what I watch and what I think about are exactly the opposite. What I usually look at are pictures like this:

And videos like these:

I used to have clear requirements for what I watched:

  1. The woman must be the active aggressor, and the man must be the passive victim.
  2. The woman must be shown as taking the initiative to harm, while the man must show resistance.

It shouldn’t be hard to see that all of these are women taking the initiative and men being passive or even resisting—feminist or reverse-patriarchal stuff. It’s not patriarchal thinking that persecutes women at all! So when I say I don’t have patriarchal thinking, I’m not saying I’m pure as jade; I’m saying I have reverse patriarchal thinking or feminist thinking.

What I fantasize about when I masturbate is not man raping woman either; quite the opposite, I fantasize about being pinned under a woman and raped in return.

And I also think this is completely meaningless. I’ve criticized this more than once, and I’ve been trying to argue that studying is the truly correct path. (Look at the time and date of the last edit.)

Denying that I have patriarchal thinking does not mean denying that I have feminist thinking or reverse patriarchal thinking!

Also, I want to tell everyone when I usually look at these things.

I don’t have any strong fetish for them. Before liberal and broad-left thinking invaded my brain and made me mentally exhausted, I rarely looked at them—how rarely? To the point that I almost never looked at them. After liberal and broad-left reactionary thinking invaded my brain, I started suffering mental exhaustion, and I couldn’t even study properly, so I was forced to look at these things to relieve the inner turmoil. And even before that, even if I occasionally looked at them, I would never masturbate because of them.

I can also promise you that if you’re willing to help me, help me resolve all the mental exhaustion left in me by liberalism and the broad left, and let me start reading and studying theory, then I guarantee I won’t masturbate again even once. If you’re willing, I can open two separate threads and list out all the problems left in me by liberalism and the broad left for you to criticize. I also want to ask a few of my own questions—questions that have bothered me for a long time but that I’ve never been able to get answers to.

I bought a lot of old Cultural Revolution-era books at secondhand book stalls, and I’ve never been able to read them because of these problems troubling me. I’m already dying to read them—please help me!

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How dare you even post something this disgusting? There were even pornographic images directly exposing genitals in it, and I deleted them. And this thing of yours is nothing but blatant slut-shaming logic, yet you still say it’s not male-gaze pornography—you have zero shame, goddamn it. Making something this disgusting and still having the nerve to so confidently defend yourself, then slapping on the covers of some Marxist books at the end—aren’t you just a bit too shameless?

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If this isn’t some kind of malicious sabotage or trolling, and you genuinely think that watching this kind of extremely disgusting, obscene, vulgar, and sordid pornographic garbage still counts as having no patriarchal pornographic mindset, and that you can still call yourself a Marxist, then all I can say is that your thinking has already become rotten to a certain extent. Extreme individualism has reached the point where you engage in this kind of extreme objectification of women, and you can still feel that you bear no moral stain at all.

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You’re still saying the left-wing crowd is obsessed? Your level of obsession has long since surpassed theirs, hasn’t it? Most of them still don’t dare to openly post pornographic stuff and call it reasonable while also claiming to be all about Marxism.

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Aren’t these all pornographic images? And they’re all slut-shaming women too. If that’s not treating women like sex objects, then what is it? And you openly post this stuff with no sense of shame or morality at all?

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Using your own obsession with the reactionary and disgusting trope of “woman on top, man on bottom” to argue that you don’t have patriarchal ideas, and even trying to prove that you have “reverse patriarchal ideas” or “feminist ideas,” is simply absurd and self-important. You say this is feminist thinking, but doesn’t that exactly reveal that, in your eyes, all women are porn addicts just like you, with nothing in their heads but filthy sexual garbage? That is precisely the embodiment of your insane patriarchal mindset: degrading women into beings who, like you, enjoy watching explicit porn, and even believing that women being treated as sex objects by you is perfectly fine.

When I used to have very serious pornographic thoughts in the past, I can say my pornographic thinking was very similar to yours. At that time, I was obsessed with porn, but I also absolutely could not stand material like rape, because it so nakedly reflects men’s oppression of women and makes the pain inflicted on women so brutally obvious. Back then, I also opposed all rape in society, condemning and denouncing it. Could one say that my mindset at that time was “feminist”? On the contrary, it was really just a way to let myself indulge in porn without feeling guilty. In the past I was obsessed with things like “female consent” and “women sexually oppressing men” as pornographic themes, and this kind of pornographic material precisely reflects how I myself wanted to indulge wildly in porn while still trying to cover it up and dump that dirty water on women. As long as women are imagined as sluts, as people immersed in porn just like oneself, then one can feel perfectly justified. This kind of thinking is by no means something to boast about or even feel proud of. It is an extremely vile, reactionary patriarchal ideology, one that shows you treat women as sex objects without any principles whatsoever. When you encounter women in society who are harmed by men, you will inevitably attack women and question whether women “actively seduced” men, dumping all the filth onto women. Utterly reactionary

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Since posts automatically use the first image as the cover, but using a pornographic image as the cover is disgusting, I changed the order of his images and put a different one first as the cover.

No Using “Special Circumstances” to Whitewash Pornographic Thinking — A Critique of Chiokk’s Reactionary Ideas

After reading Chiokk’s self-introduction Part 2, it must be clearly stated: this is not ordinary “ideological confusion,” but an open defense of reactionary pornographic thinking, while trying to drape it in the outer garments of “feminism,” “anti-patriarchy,” and “reading Cultural Revolution books” to cover up the shame. This kind of thinking must be seriously criticized; it cannot be brushed aside.

1. The claim that “women are active and men are passive, so it’s not patriarchy” is completely specious

Chiokk says that what he looks at is not “men actively oppressing women,” but rather “women are active and men are passive,” so it does not count as patriarchal pornography.

This is sheer sophistry.

Whether pornographic thinking is reactionary is not judged by who appears active or passive on the surface, but by whether it turns people into tools for satisfying desire, whether it turns human relations into sexual domination, sexual humiliation, and sexual fantasy, and whether it treats oppressive relations as something to be consumed for stimulation.

As long as people are still being used as material for sexual fantasy, as long as women are placed into pornographic scenarios for one’s own excitement, that is not anti-patriarchy, and even less is it women’s liberation. Reversing the direction of oppression and playing it out once more is still oppression; repackaging rotten pornography in a different direction is still rotten pornography.

This talk of “reverse patriarchy” is not anti-patriarchy at all; it is patriarchal pornographic thinking in a different shell.

2. He simply does not truly treat women as human beings

Real women’s liberation means women breaking free from family oppression, social oppression, sexual oppression, and capitalist exploitation, becoming independent people and the main force in revolutionary struggle.

Chiokk’s so-called “feminism” is not the liberation of oppressed women in reality, not women taking part in labor, taking part in struggle, and breaking free from patriarchal control. Instead, it imagines women as active, dominant figures in pornographic scenes.

This shows that in his mind there are no real women at all—no working women in real life, no oppressed, exploited, humiliated, and harmed women among the masses. There are only shadows inside his own pornographic fantasies.

On the surface, this thinking talks about women being active; in reality, it still revolves around male desire. Women are not human beings there, not comrades, not the masses, but roles in a pornographic fantasy. This is just another expression of patriarchal thinking.

3. Using “liberal and broad left influences” to explain degeneration is evading responsibility

Chiokk says that he has been influenced by liberal and broad-left ideas, which caused mental exhaustion and made him unable to study, so he uses these things to cope.

Liberalism, the broad left, anime pornography culture, and online trash culture do indeed corrode young people. There is no doubt about that. But the question is: why have these things taken root in you? Why didn’t you struggle against them? Why didn’t you cut them off? Why did you not treat them as poisonous weeds and criticize them, but instead bring them out to defend yourself?

If all you say is “bad ideas influenced me,” but you do not say why you welcomed them, why you enjoyed them, and why you defended them, then that is not self-criticism; it is an attempt to escape responsibility.

True self-criticism must make clear: what did I get out of these rotten things? Why was I unwilling to cut them off? Why did I still try to find excuses for them? Without addressing these points, saying one was “influenced” is empty talk.

4. “If you help me solve this, I guarantee I won’t do it again” is bargaining

Chiokk says that if everyone is willing to help him solve these ideological problems and get him started on reading theory, then he guarantees he will never masturbate again.

This attitude is also wrong.

Comrades can help you, and the organization can educate you, but they cannot take responsibility for you. Transformation cannot be turned into a transaction: you help me first, and then I promise not to do it again. Saying it this way still shifts the responsibility onto others, as if your degeneration happened because others did not help you properly.

The correct attitude should be: I have already recognized the seriousness of the problem, and now I will immediately stop contacting pornographic trash, stop defending myself, bring out the ideological roots, accept criticism, accept supervision, and begin changing from today.

You do not wait until others have “comforted you” before you change. Revolutionary transformation is not bargaining.

5. Buying Cultural Revolution books cannot cover up rotten thinking

Chiokk also posted the old Cultural Revolution books he bought, saying he wants to read theory and hopes everyone will help him.

Buying revolutionary books is not, in itself, a bad thing. But in the context of this post, it looks glaringly out of place. Right after defending pornographic trash, he immediately posts revolutionary books, as if to say: look, I do have problems, but I also want to study revolutionary theory.

That is using revolutionary books to cover up shame.

Cultural Revolution books are not a charm. Buying books does not mean having a revolutionary stance; wanting to read does not mean being willing to transform oneself. If someone is drowning in pornographic trash on the one hand and using revolutionary books to dress themselves up on the other, then that is not studying Marxism—it is petty-bourgeois collecting, curiosity-seeking, and identity performance.

Revolutionary theory is for transforming the world outlook, not for slapping a red label on a rotten lifestyle.

6. This is not a private little issue, but a worldview issue

Pornographic thinking is not a private detail. How a person views sex, how they view women, how they view their own desires—this directly reflects their class position and worldview.

Bourgeois society turns everything into commodities, including the human body and sexual relations. Pornographic culture is the concentrated expression of this rotten relationship. It teaches people to treat others as objects, women as tools, oppressive relations as stimulation, and human feelings and dignity as something to be trampled underfoot.

Proletarian revolutionaries must break with this kind of thinking. If a person says they want to learn Marxism while at the same time indulging in pornographic trash and making excuses for it, that shows their way of life and worldview are still stuck in the filthy pit of rotten petty-bourgeois thought.

7. Chiokk’s ideological components are a manifestation of decadent petty-bourgeois left-circle youth

From this post, Chiokk’s problem is not simply that he “doesn’t understand theory,” but that several kinds of thought are mixed together:

First, the pornographic thinking is severe. He is not quietly admitting error; he is openly finding excuses, which shows he did not merely pick up this thinking by accident, but has already begun serving it.

Second, the patriarchal thinking is severe. On the surface he talks about “women being active,” but in reality he is still placing women inside his own pornographic fantasies and has not treated women as real people or comrades.

Third, petty-bourgeois exceptionalism is severe. General rules can be used to criticize others, but when it comes to himself, he says “my situation is special.” That is the old trick of evading criticism.

Fourth, opportunist left-circle thinking is severe. He wraps himself in labels like “liberal,” “broad left,” “feminism,” and “anti-patriarchy,” while also using Cultural Revolution books to prove he “longs for revolution.” This is not honest self-criticism; it is using concepts and red books to cover up shame.

Fifth, the sense of responsibility is very poor. Instead of first resolving to cut off rotten thinking, he says “you help me solve it, and I’ll guarantee it.” This still hands initiative to others and shifts responsibility onto the collective.

8. If he still wants to improve, he must immediately do the following

If Chiokk is not acting in bad faith and truly wants to transform himself, then he must first do the following:

First, stop defending pornographic thinking. Do not keep talking about “reverse patriarchy” or “women being active so it doesn’t count as patriarchy.” These are all sophistry.

Second, stop contacting and spreading pornographic material. Do not bring this kind of thing into the forum to pollute others.

Third, rewrite a serious self-criticism. He must make clear his class background, life experiences, the process by which he came into contact with left-circle and pornographic culture, why this thinking formed, and why he defended it.

Fourth, genuinely study women’s liberation theory. Do not understand women through pornographic fantasies; understand women’s liberation through the oppression and struggle of working women in real life.

Fifth, accept comrades’ criticism and supervision. Do not treat transformation as a transaction, and do not wait for others to coax you or solve it for you. You yourself must first take the knife and cut away these rotten ideas.

9. Conclusion

Chiokk’s post sounds a warning to everyone: even if a left-circle youth buys a few revolutionary books and says they want to learn theory, if they do not struggle against their rotten lifestyle, do not struggle against pornographic thinking, and do not struggle against patriarchal thinking, they will still wrap the most reactionary and vulgar things in the outer garments of “feminism,” “anti-patriarchy,” and “interest in Marxism.”

Revolutionary organizations cannot tolerate this kind of thing. The forum also must not let this kind of thinking slip in and pollute newcomers. This reactionary thinking must be clearly criticized, and its roots must be dug out.

If he wants to change, he must first stop defending himself, accept criticism, and remake himself. Otherwise, no matter how many Cultural Revolution books he buys, it is nothing more than putting a red cover over rotten ideas.

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You say these works of art reflect a relationship in which women oppress men, but in the images you posted, the female sexual characteristics are all deliberately emphasized, and the other body parts are also drawn according to standards of being fair-skinned, youthful, and thin. Art created entirely to cater to male pornographic desires—how could that possibly be feminist? I think that’s a bit too ridiculous.

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Alright, that’s just too much hassle—it’s exhausting me. I’ll stick with being a free-and-easy loner instead. I’m really sorry for bringing poison weeds and headaches to this forum. I feel very guilty. And I also never said that I’m a Marxist—at most, I’m just a beginner. Finally, I request post deletion + account deletion. I looked around in the account settings for ages but couldn’t find any button for account deletion. The revolution doesn’t lack me—either I won’t take part in it, and I certainly won’t help with building anything “special modifications” or join to suppress the revolution.

From now on, this account won’t log in again. I only ask the forum to completely erase the traces I left behind and to forget me entirely.

I’m very sorry for the trouble and poison weeds I’ve caused everyone!

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You dump your trash on the forum and then run off, huh? This isn’t a landfill.

What kind of carefree sect are you talking about? Sounds nice, but isn’t it just going back to a parasitic life, casually dabbling in politics and indulging in depravity? The stuff you like to watch is nothing more than enjoying bourgeois art and literature to satisfy your own filthy sexual thoughts, while smearing women as sluts with an inherently promiscuous nature. You oppress them, and then on top of that you hypocritically look down on them morally in the name of virtue — disgusting and vile. Just like the part you said at the end: in your heart you clearly hate everyone to the bone, but your mouth still has to say a few nice words to make yourself look magnanimous. If you were really sincerely apologetic, why not actually read what everyone said and admit your mistakes instead of criticizing yourself? To put it bluntly, you just won’t accept it — you’re dissatisfied inside but refuse to say it, so what’s with pretending to be a refined gentleman?

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I’ve realized you’re just a complete piece of shit, like a fucking idiot.
Why would there be men who have some kind of fetish for being “abused” by women?
It’s entirely because this nest of degenerate scum is so insanely obsessed with perverse sexual thinking that you’ve lost all sense of reality. Because your hatred of women is so extreme, you end up grotesquely beautifying your own mindset. For example, under news stories about women who were raped, people like you will show up and say some disgusting bullshit like, “If she was raped, didn’t she enjoy it too?”
It’s precisely because your twisted, disgusting sexual thoughts have sunk so deep into your brain that you treat everything about women as sexual, fantasize that women being raped and murdered is sexual, and naturally come to see that kind of thing as some form of enjoyment. You even fantasize about women humiliating you; on the surface it looks like humiliation, but in reality you’re just hoping a woman will serve you and be your sex slave.
If you love being abused so much, then why is it that when people on the left insult you a few times, you can’t take it? What kind of dogshit are you? So disgusting.

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Fine, let the masses see just how disgusting today’s decadent petty-bourgeois thinking in China has become, so people can see the true face of someone like you.

Insane — after reading this post, I was honestly at a loss for words for a moment.

By the way, how has Hanqing been lately?

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